Before I left the house Monday morning, I prayed the Lord would send me the biggest baddest sinner he could my way. While I did not have any that seemed to fit that description, we did have three atheists from Chicago, two whom were pretty big prove their foolishness while out with the Prayer Station this past Monday.
My brother Reggie began the conversation with them as I was talking with someone else. When I was done, I stood about and listened to Reggie as he spoke with the trio. Reggie was able to share the Ten Commandments with them to show them their sin and while one of them laughed and walked away, surprisingly, one of them admitted that he was guilty of breaking God’s commandments and would go to hell if he died, the third one Dan, said no and that God did not exist and he would not be guilty or go to hell. As I heard the conversation progress, I jumped in and Dan and I began to talk.
Dan gave all sorts of excuses for his foolishness. He mentioned that there are writing that predates the bible that tell of many accounts much like the biblical accounts that in his mind, show the bible and Jesus to be a farce. He asked that if God knows all things that He knows that he would reject Him and die and go to hell for all eternity, why he would still make me? On and on, he made up excuses for his rebellion. He said that all other religions will say they worship the one true God and would say we worship a false god. “What sets Christianity apart from all other religions?” He asked. Reggie replied “Jesus” and went on to explain the atoning sacrifice of Christ. ~ 1 John 2:2
There wasn’t much arguing with him, but Reggie continued and shared the law and gospel, but he remained in his folly.
Dan did make a few points that I have heard asked. “Why did not God just keep Adam and Eve from sinning? Great question I thought. In a class on Calvinism recently at church we discussed this. Indeed while many things do leave us with questions and we may wonder why? We trust in God and in His perfect will. But to think that if there were no sin, if God had indeed kept Satan out of the garden and indeed He could have and He could have prevented the fall, none of us would ever have known what grace is. Indeed we would never have seen grace in view of the cross of Christ. We could have spent all eternity in heaven and be satisfied, but indeed, with all of God’s attributes, grace is indeed one we cherish and no one deserves.
I shared with Dan, some of what I learned in the class and again no reply to it, just another question.
I then asked Dan, “Could you be wrong about all you believe and say to be true?” “Yes, he replied. Then how do you know what you say to be true is true?” (I think I said that right)
Dan then directed my question back at me. My reply was that to have absolute knowledge and know what truth is; you have to either have absolute knowledge or know someone who does. Indeed God knows all things, every word before we say it, all our days were written in His book, when yet not one day had come to be. ~ Psalm 139
Dan then gave me a look at if I had gone crazy and told me he was not going to get into a logical conversation with me. Very soon after that, the sun hid itself behind some dark clouds, it began to thunder, and the bottom fell out drenching Reggie and I and chasing our atheist friends away. Indeed pray for all we met this Monday at the station and may God be gloried and may He draw near to all for His glory alone.I normally will debate the existence of God with those who refuse to acknowledge what they already know to be true (that God exist). O have practiced like many of my of those who are active in sharing their faith analogies and reasoning’s to present to an atheist, but recently come across a resource that I am still learning an encourage all in obedience that share their faith to view this resource, “How to Answer the Fool” by Sye Ten Bruggencate”
Here is a brief description the dvd that is available from American Vision. http://store.americanvision.org/products/fool
“The fool has said in his heart, ‘There is no God.’” – Psalm 14:1
Not since the late Dr. Greg Bahnsen debated Dr. Gordon Stein in “The Great Debate: Does God Exist?” have we really seen presuppositional apologetics in action. And few have taken it into culture to show that there are only two positions, Christ…or absurdity.
But wait no more… Apologist Sye Ten Bruggencate takes this apologetic to the streets and Universities exposing the logical inconsistencies of the unbeliever (and dare we say some ‘Christians’) by showing that we don’t need ‘evidence’ to prove that God exists. For as Romans 1:18-21 declares:
“The wrath of God is being revealed from heaven against all the godlessness and wickedness of men who suppress the truth by their wickedness, since what may be known about God is plain to them, because God has made it plain to them. For since the creation of the world God’s invisible qualities – his eternal power and divine nature – have been clearly seen, being understood from what has been made, so that men are without excuse. For although they knew God, they neither glorified him as God nor gave thanks to him, but their thinking became futile and their foolish hearts were darkened.”
Produced as a cinematic film, How to Answer the Fool was adapted for use in small group and Sunday School classes, making it a useful tool for individual or group study. With an eye-opening, cinematic message, How to Answer the Fool deliberately and strategically teaches you how to defend the Faith; answering the call of Scripture to ‘be ready in season and out of season‘ in order that we may ‘…always being prepared to make a defense to anyone who asks you for a reason for the hope that is in [us].’
“Within a minute or two you’ll see highly intelligent college students stunned at their inability to answer questions about knowledge and ethics. This six-part video series is a game-changer, not only for the unbelieving world but also for Christian apologists who compromise the gospel by arguing for the possibility that God exists and not the certainty of God’s existence.” - Gary DeMar
“In this video, Sye Ten Bruggencate masterfully demonstrates the biblical way to defend the Christian faith. For far too long Christians have allowed unbelievers to pretend to be the judge and jury in the debate over the Christian faith. But God is the true judge. And apart from the Christian worldview, debates over any truth claim would not be possible. It is the Christian worldview alone that makes sense of those things necessary for reasoning: laws of logic, reliability of the senses, and the capacity of the human mind to be rational. In a chance universe, none of these things would make sense, and knowledge could not exist. The very fact that debate is possible is proof of the Christian worldview. But this isn’t just theoretical. Sye takes it to the streets, and shows that unbelievers could not know anything at all if their professed worldview were true. It is delightful to see the “lights come on” when an unbeliever realizes that his professed worldview just doesn’t make any sense.”
“Sye also shows the method in action in a radio debate setting. The unbelievers simply cannot answer even basic questions of truth on their own professed worldview. The fact that unbelievers do know things demonstrates that in their heart-of-hearts, they really do know God. But they have suppressed that truth in unrighteousness, just as Scripture teaches (Romans 1:18-20). If all Christians began defending the faith the way the Bible tells us to, recognizing Christ as our ultimate authority, it wouldn’t take long at all to make disciples of all nations (Matthew 28:18-20.)” - Dr. Jason Lisle